Jon Diamond
Jul 29 2007, 01:20 AM
Nowadays in horror films, both in theaterical and DTV, it seems like things are being done over and over again. I know I can make a list of things that I'm just tired of seeing, even the good stuff gets old after a while. So what all are you tired of seeing?
Here is my small abbreviated list:
- Heavy reliance on CGI, especially in low budget features. They are never an excuse to use CGI for blood, never! lol Just look at all of the "Sci-Fi Originals" for a great example of when NOT to use CGI.
- Ghosts in general. I'm not saying all ghost movies are bad, but I am just tired of them. It seems like they are all the same and are usually uneventful.
- Romantic vampires. Actually I was never a fan so I guess I can't really be "tired" of them. I miss the days of vampires being pure monsters. Even when they were slick and suave they were still monsters, just smart ones.
- The slow build. They are nothing wrong with a slow build up in a horror movie, usually it leads to good suspense, but seeing as how no one knows how to do it anymore, stop. Slow build isn't suppose to mean an hour and 20min. of pure boredom and 10min. of action. A good example of that goes to "Boogeyman", of course the bad CGI didn't help that movie either.
- Cheap scares. Yet again I'll use "Boogeyman" as an example. It felt like every 5min. they were making a loud noise to get the "BOO" reaction out of the audience. Using the technique works when done sparingly, much like CGI, but over doing it just gets annoying.
Ok thats just a small list, but I'm sure the rest of you can come up with more.
Mephistopheles
Jul 29 2007, 02:52 AM
One word, Remakes.
Jon Diamond
Jul 29 2007, 09:35 PM
QUOTE (Mephistopheles @ Jul 29 2007, 06:52 AM)

One word, Remakes.
I gotta agree there. That has been old for many, MANY, years.
Mephistopheles
Jul 29 2007, 09:41 PM
I do not know if it is ever going to go away.
astralpictures
Jul 29 2007, 09:42 PM
I'm just tired of "slick" looking horror movies with no heart or meaning.
micki_dallion
Jul 29 2007, 09:52 PM
I'm tired of remakes and American versions of films that have been done in other countries (I guess that's the same thing as remakes). I'm also tired of these CGI scares rather than using the old fashioned scares like sounds and surprises.
goremageddon
Jul 29 2007, 11:20 PM
PG-13 movies with no gore, and no intensity what so ever.
Scary movies were made to be rated R, or not rated at all!!
xombie
Jul 30 2007, 03:57 AM
QUOTE (goremageddon @ Jul 29 2007, 11:20 PM)

PG-13 movies with no gore, and no intensity what so ever.
Scary movies were made to be rated R, or not rated at all!!
I AGREE WITH YA GORE PG 13 HAS NO PLACE IN HORROR
goremageddon
Jul 30 2007, 09:15 AM
Fuckin right, dude. If it is PG-13, that means that prepubescent kids can tolerate it. And that shit just won't cut it anymore.
I mean, The Ring, the Grudge, When a Stranger Calls, etc.. If you ask me, all of that was complete bullshit.
And the remakes thing, some are really good. The Hills Have Eyes is one of the best movies to come out within the last decade in my opinion
Momma's Boy
Jul 30 2007, 10:10 AM
I'm tired of thoughtless pieces of drivel that my 8 year old nephew could write better.(This encompasses MOST remakes(Foreign and Domestic), as well as any film that has absolutely no plot-line but a bunch of cheap 'scares'.)
I'm tired of ex-music video directors who think they know all about the film industry and put out lame interpretations of original ideas.
I'm tired of senseless gore without the benefit of some really original 'bad-guy/girl' behind it all.(It worked for Michael, Jason, Freddy, and Chucky because it was the 'first' time it was done. Rehashing it with some other killer in a Mask, doesn't make it cool.)
I'm tired of these Hollywood Bean-Counters who 'play it safe' hoping to rake in the bucks.(This includes PG-13 Horror, hiring only 'star' names to put a production together, or banking on endless sequels without putting any money into them.)
Actually, I'm just plain tired of Hollywood. Time for another Independent Film revolution. Show the studios that the 'little guys' know what they're doing more than their accountants do.
TomorrowAlora
Jul 30 2007, 12:00 PM
Ok, all I am tired of all of the above, lol.
I am also tired of going on to other boards (and I do mean other boards) and seeing people rip apart the indie movies because the effects weren't all that great. Smart people know when they are picking up an indie movie. Don't expect Speilberg effects when watching these.
In my opinion, Hollywood has had it all wrong for a long time now. I think our only hope lies in the indie movies- those who put it all on the line just to make their own movie.
Buhbuhraven
Jul 30 2007, 12:44 PM
torture horror
horror movies with no plot
remakes
horror movies that have to leave the ending open hoping for a sequel
astralpictures
Jul 30 2007, 12:57 PM
I don't mind PG13 horror movies, or even PG or G horror movies! What I don't like is when a PG13 movie should be an R, but it holds back so it can get a lower rating and attract the bigger audience. If a movie is meant to be a PG13 or lower and pulls it off, then that's great. I mean, look at the original The Haunting; a movie doesn't have to be R to be scary. But if it's about subject matter that should be R or Unrated stuff, then don't hold back!
TomorrowAlora
Jul 30 2007, 01:27 PM
Torture horror! Thank you Astral, I forgot about that one!
Buhbuhraven
Jul 30 2007, 04:43 PM
QUOTE (astralpictures @ Jul 30 2007, 03:57 PM)

I don't mind PG13 horror movies, or even PG or G horror movies! What I don't like is when a PG13 movie should be an R, but it holds back so it can get a lower rating and attract the bigger audience. If a movie is meant to be a PG13 or lower and pulls it off, then that's great. I mean, look at the original The Haunting; a movie doesn't have to be R to be scary. But if it's about subject matter that should be R or Unrated stuff, then don't hold back!
they hold back so that they can sell an unrated dvd at a later time
micki_dallion
Jul 30 2007, 09:10 PM
QUOTE (Buhbuhraven @ Jul 30 2007, 08:43 PM)

they hold back so that they can sell an unrated dvd at a later time
Yes, and I hate that! They are coming out with more unrated movies lately, but they really aren't that different from the R rated version.
TomorrowAlora
Jul 30 2007, 09:17 PM
QUOTE (micki_dallion @ Jul 30 2007, 09:10 PM)

Yes, and I hate that! They are coming out with more unrated movies lately, but they really aren't that different from the R rated version.
Thank you! I just saw the unrated version of The Number 13 and wondered why it was unrated. The same could be said for so many movies.
jaybfv
Aug 1 2007, 08:27 AM
Definitely torture. limbs being removed.
Moviemakers that don't know that the best horror is often what you don't see. Included in this annoyance is both overdone special effects and overly graphic material.
Zombie movies (was never a fan)
If it's supposed to be a horror movie, and my mother likes it, then there's something wrong. (Silence of the Lambs. Jaws.)
xombie
Aug 1 2007, 08:48 AM
TORTURE/PORN ELI
goremageddon
Aug 3 2007, 01:57 PM
QUOTE (jaybfv @ Aug 1 2007, 11:27 AM)

Zombie movies (was never a fan)
BLASPHEMY!
cenobite
Aug 8 2007, 05:40 PM
remakes are a joke. just take this new "the invasion" movie. how many times are they gonna remake invasion of the body snatchers?
stealing other people's movies is just as bad. i noticed one night that "the curse of the puppet master" is a stolen idea of an older movie called "SSSSSSS" that was made back in 1973. here's a link to a movie description about it
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070622/. anyways in it, a kid goes to work for this snake scientist, falls for the scientists daughter, and the scientist ends up drugging the kid...sending the daughter to pick up a snake at the store and when she comes back the doctor has turned the kid into a snake.
In the puppet master movie, it's the same EXACT thing (some dialogue is even the same) except you're dealing with puppets instead of snakes. it's definately lawsuit worthy if they didn't get some type of permission from the owners of "SSSSSSS" first.
headcheese
Aug 8 2007, 06:14 PM
I agree about the holding back and getting the lower rating so they can mainstream and market to teens and then putting out some uncut version which is marketed to the adult horror fanatic and it looks pretty much the same other than one or two inserted scenes or words! That's just lame!!!
Also remakes of classics!!! That just pisses me off and I'm with alora on the independent films! I've seen alot of good ones lately and at least some of the writers and directors of these films seem to have some original thoughts in their heads!
headcheese
Aug 8 2007, 06:16 PM
QUOTE (cenobite @ Aug 8 2007, 09:40 PM)

remakes are a joke. just take this new "the invasion" movie. how many times are they gonna remake invasion of the body snatchers?
stealing other people's movies is just as bad. i noticed one night that "the curse of the puppet master" is a stolen idea of an older movie called "SSSSSSS" that was made back in 1973. here's a link to a movie description about it
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070622/. anyways in it, a kid goes to work for this snake scientist, falls for the scientists daughter, and the scientist ends up drugging the kid...sending the daughter to pick up a snake at the store and when she comes back the doctor has turned the kid into a snake.
In the puppet master movie, it's the same EXACT thing (some dialogue is even the same) except you're dealing with puppets instead of snakes. it's definately lawsuit worthy if they didn't get some type of permission from the owners of "SSSSSSS" first.
Ssssssssss is a funny movie! So much camp it's very worth the watch! Thanx for the link by the way, I didn't know this info even though I've seen both movies. Maybe because Ssssssssss is memorable and Curse of the Puppet Master is not!
cenobite
Aug 8 2007, 06:18 PM
QUOTE (headcheese @ Aug 8 2007, 09:16 PM)

Ssssssssss is a funny movie! So much camp it's very worth the watch! Thanx for the link by the way, I didn't know this info even though I've seen both movies. Maybe because Ssssssssss is memorable and Curse of the Puppet Master is not!
yeah, i had just watched Sssssss on the sci-fi channel a few days before i watched Curse of the puppet master. i felt some major deja vu.
TomorrowAlora
Aug 8 2007, 07:15 PM
I am tired of the minority "side kicks" dying in horror movies. It is too damn predictable. Why not just put a red shirt on the character and make it totally obvious.
headcheese
Aug 8 2007, 07:17 PM
QUOTE (TomorrowAlora @ Aug 8 2007, 11:15 PM)

I am tired of the minority "side kicks" dying in horror movies. It is too damn predictable. Why not just put a red shirt on the character and make it totally obvious.

LMAO! And why do we have to have a minority sidekick anyway? Is there some government quota for the film companies? Do they get a tax break for hiring the minority sidekick?
TomorrowAlora
Aug 8 2007, 07:25 PM
QUOTE (headcheese @ Aug 8 2007, 07:17 PM)

LMAO! And why do we have to have a minority sidekick anyway? Is there some government quota for the film companies? Do they get a tax break for hiring the minority sidekick?
LOL- Exactly! Whenever we are watching a horror movie and the minority friend comes on, we start taking bets on how long into the movie this friend will bite it.
It is a ridiculous part of too many films and it irks me.
jaybfv
Aug 9 2007, 09:19 AM
[quote name='cenobite' date='Aug 8 2007, 05:40 PM' post='55063']
remakes are a joke. just take this new "the invasion" movie. how many times are they gonna remake invasion of the body snatchers?
I don't object to the concept of remakes. But if you are going to do a remake, you should be doing an interesting take on the movie. Show the story in a creative way. Build on something that wasn't developed much in the original.
Most remakes have less story and longer chase scenes, more special effects. I see no point.
sineater
Aug 16 2007, 01:44 AM
QUOTE (TomorrowAlora @ Aug 8 2007, 11:15 PM)

I am tired of the minority "side kicks" dying in horror movies. It is too damn predictable. Why not just put a red shirt on the character and make it totally obvious.

Boy is that right on the money!
Mephistopheles
Aug 16 2007, 03:16 AM
School...
TomorrowAlora
Aug 16 2007, 04:31 AM
Not having a set schedule for work. Calling in every morning to find out what I am doing this day sucks.
goremageddon
Aug 16 2007, 07:22 PM
I bet that does blow.
micki_dallion
Aug 16 2007, 07:29 PM
QUOTE (TomorrowAlora @ Aug 8 2007, 11:15 PM)

I am tired of the minority "side kicks" dying in horror movies. It is too damn predictable. Why not just put a red shirt on the character and make it totally obvious.

Ha! Star Trek reference! Yes, I wouldn't want to be a minority in a horror film. When you are, you immediately become the most expendable person.
xombie
Aug 21 2007, 06:08 AM
I AGREE WITH JAY I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WOULD BE COOL TO SEE DAWN OF THE DEAD TOLD THROUGH THE BIKERS EYE'S
TomorrowAlora
Aug 21 2007, 06:42 AM
QUOTE (micki_dallion @ Aug 16 2007, 07:29 PM)

Ha! Star Trek reference! Yes, I wouldn't want to be a minority in a horror film. When you are, you immediately become the most expendable person.
I was wondering if someone would catch on to that, lol.
astralpictures
Aug 21 2007, 08:59 AM
I'm also tired of horror movies that think they have to be action movies as well. There's this misconception going around now that horror and action go hand in hand, and what we miss out on is the slow, creepy type of movie with a chilling atmosphere and good solid story that has meaning. Instead we have shoot em up horror movies with tons of explosions and cgi.
Crystalrubi
Aug 21 2007, 10:38 AM
I'm just tired of waiting for Horror to evolve into something else. A new direction is needed. I mean if you look at the past you see how horror was constatnly evolving. Now it seems stagnant and frankly its starting to stink.
TomorrowAlora
Aug 21 2007, 10:57 AM
QUOTE (astralpictures @ Aug 21 2007, 08:59 AM)

I'm also tired of horror movies that think they have to be action movies as well. There's this misconception going around now that horror and action go hand in hand, and what we miss out on is the slow, creepy type of movie with a chilling atmosphere and good solid story that has meaning. Instead we have shoot em up horror movies with tons of explosions and cgi.
I agree...
QUOTE (Crystalrubi @ Aug 21 2007, 10:38 AM)

I'm just tired of waiting for Horror to evolve into something else. A new direction is needed. I mean if you look at the past you see how horror was constatnly evolving. Now it seems stagnant and frankly its starting to stink.
...and I agree.

It seems to me that "they" are trying to do something different with horror when they try and make it an action/horror, but it fails miserably. And on a different note, it seems one type of horror formula made money, so now that is the only formula being used. The part that pisses me off the most is that people go and see this redone, remade, microwaved crap, thus making money for these numb-skulls, thus allowing the numb-skulls to keep microwaving the same crap over and over.
jaybfv
Aug 21 2007, 11:09 AM
I am also tired of the action-horror format. In fact, I am tired of action movies. I don't care to see chases, explosions, etc. Van Helsing was the epitome of this.
Low budgets are better because the low budgets force the movie makers to focus on quality. Yes, atmospherics like fog and blowing leaves are inexpensive, but effective chills.
xombie
Aug 21 2007, 11:15 AM
QUOTE (Crystalrubi @ Aug 21 2007, 10:38 AM)

I'm just tired of waiting for Horror to evolve into something else. A new direction is needed. I mean if you look at the past you see how horror was constatnly evolving. Now it seems stagnant and frankly its starting to stink.
i agree with you to crystal, and what i see happening next is getting away from the action,torture/porn and doing more of a comedy/horror flics
goremageddon
Aug 21 2007, 01:07 PM
I want there to be new killers. New monsters. Some as innovative and timeless as Micheal, or Jason. I want a new kind of vampire. Not the latest ones that are made to be pretty.
Mephistopheles
Aug 21 2007, 01:09 PM
I hate the pretty vampires, I like the classic vamps like Nosferatu who were disgusting and evil at the same time!
goremageddon
Aug 21 2007, 01:12 PM
EXACTLY!!!!
The new breed of attractive vampires has to go. I want the ones who LOOK like they have been undead for over a hundred years.
Mephistopheles
Aug 21 2007, 01:17 PM
I actually loved how the vampires were in Buffy, there was everything from the Master who had been alive thousands of years and was butt ugly to the vampires like Darla and Drucilla who looked like innocent girls until they switch to their vampire faces and go into killing mode.
This Anne Rice crap where they are all pretty and emo is just damn stupid! Queen of the damned is on now and it is making me sick, oooh look at me Im a vampire so I can leave a blurry spot.
Mephistopheles
Aug 21 2007, 01:24 PM
Compare and contrast:
Classic

New Crap

[/img]EFFING GAY ASS VAMPIRES, THATS ALL WE GET THESE DAYS. STUPID GAY VAMPIRES!
TomorrowAlora
Aug 21 2007, 01:51 PM
No no-- long live the sexy vampires! If Goran Visjnic ever plays a vampire....gods help that man! *thud*
goremageddon
Aug 21 2007, 01:59 PM
Classic vampires
Mephistopheles
Aug 21 2007, 02:35 PM
Oh I just nosticed Nosferatu is feeling her up with his giant claw hands while sucking her blood.
astralpictures
Aug 21 2007, 04:50 PM
Yeah, that's the Herzog '79 version with Klaus Kinski. I'd feel up Isabelle Adjani too, cause she was a hottie!
goremageddon
Aug 21 2007, 05:02 PM
I never actually noticed that,lol
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